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PAs and Specialty Boards: Except for one specialty, let's wait.
by David Mittman, PA - October 16, 2009   Bookmark and Share

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A few things............

I owe you some thoughts on how we potentiate our voice in letting people know how we PAs and NPs are a major be a solution to the primary care distribution problem. That will be coming soon. I want the plan to include something we can all do and have us all make a difference with.

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Specialty Boards

A real debate has erupted (and it is good to see) in the PA profession. It is about the people that give PAs their certification and re-certification announcing that they will be moving into specialty boards for PAs.

A little background. This organization called the NCCPA, is free standing and is not controlled solely by the PA profession. There is much PA input though. Over the past few years a number of other organizations outside the NCCPA have threatened to start specialty boards for PAs, so the NCCPA being the “experts” thought it was the time for them to do it. As you may know, all PAs regardless of specialty have to pass broad based INITIAL certification boards which include questions representing patient management and more in all of the major medical/surgical specialties. As PA training tends to be very broad in nature, this has always been looked at positively. We also must have required CME hours each year but also are required to take recertificiation boards which are also broadly based in content, every six years. This has been a thorn in the grass roots PAs side for many years for two main reasons. One is that it has raised the anxiety level of many simply because these boards cover many of the major medical specialties. Hard for a PA in internal medicine or pediatrics (which are primary care specialties) to know emergency medicine, gynecology, adult psych or orthopedics and then have their professional future depend on that. To be fair, there are many fine courses to prepare you for these boards but they cost money and time.

Also remember that specialty based PAs constitute more than half of the profession. Imagine being in cardiac surgery for 20 years or psych or orthopedic surgery or derm or emergency medicine and having to worry about an exam where the majority of the questions do not cover what you do every day? Hardly fair.

Also these specialty PAs attend CME courses that are broad based, even though these topics may not at all cover what they do on a day to day basis. This is partly because they want to prepare for the recertification exam. To me that’s a waste of money and does little to insure that you spend your time learning what you need to learn.

Now on the other hand, because of our initial generalist training, the PA profession was, and continues to be, quite adaptable. A PA could work in surgery or the ER full time and at an urgent care center on the weekends. Or maybe segway into derm because of financial gains exactly because she/he had the the ability to move into new specialties. This is a real plus to the clinician and one that many NPs looked at with envy, especially when trying to get rulings from the Board of Nursing on what each specialty could do.

The Problem

Once specialty boards exist, generally they will be required. If not by the state, by hospitals and employers for sure. It may even bring us closer to the physician specialty groups. This would do two things; one is significantly box PAs into a specific specialty which will be harder to leave and secondly, I believe, offer more protection to the public.

If we are to say that the reason Boards are given is public protection AND if PAs (and NPs) are held to the same standard of care that physicians are, then Boards in the major specialties is a no brainer. To me there is no way around that fact. Given the choice, I’d like the PA taking care of me to be specialty certified, why not? If we are to say that we require Boards because of any other reason, I believe we should wait and not do this now, except for one specialty. Why? With healthcare being redesigned, it is not the time to be making major policy changes for PAs (or NPs). If PAs feel specialty boards are needed, we can start them once the healthcare mess we are in is somewhat straightened out. The PA profession needs to be as adaptable as possible for the next few years. Specialty Boards would tie us down and decrease our ability to adapt, change and respond. No one is forcing these down our throats at the moment. What we do need to do as soon as possible is create specialty boards in Primary Care/Family Practice. These could even be jointly developed between NPs and PAs and would insure competency in providing all facets of primary care. Why? Because primary care is where the need is and if we play our cards right the first area we can use these Boards. With these new Boards should come expanded privileges for us, more autonomy and a real loosening of the barriers which hinder the ability for PAs to get out there and make a difference. Graduates should be able to know how to run a small clinic as well as some public health.

Now is not the time for specialty boards. Let’s start with primary care and have significant impact from PAs who work in family practice, rural health and retail care. Let’s tie this to more autonomy and whatever else could help us delivery better care to more people. If this one works we just might have the model for the rest. And if we really want to blue sky it let’s call the PAs who pass the Boards Physician Associates.

That’s it for this week.

Dave    Dave Mittman

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Anonymous on 26 Oct 2009 at 7:37 am

The PA recert is a money maker and when someone is making money they are not going to give this up. So, I couldn't agree more that CME should be enough. However, we need to deal with the plain fact that recert is going nowhere as long as it makes money.

Personallly, I did not like the type II recert the way it was set up but...I do not mind looking things up every 6 yrs. It keeps me current and informed and satisfies the boards need to make money. The exam is onerous and no other provider has to do this. They freely admit that they probably could not pass this exam.

Conversely, I agree that Specialy exams is not a good idea.. Just like the federal government...once you open that door it presents a whole other source for problems that can not be undone easily.

Therefore, to satisfy the money making and make the 6yr recert less onerous-make it an open book exam that simply requires looking up material,period.

I have always said you can't legislate or test morality. Those that will cheat the system will do so regardless.

Concerned (San Antonio) on 21 Oct 2009 at 2:30 pm

Want to be a specialist? Go to Medical school. I chose a career as a PA for the flexibility of jumping from specialty to specialty. Fortunately, I am still in my 20s and young enough to go back to medical school. This is completely ridiculous! If I have to specialize and receive additional training (residency), why go to PA school? Screw the PA profession! I’m going back to medical school and getting paid like a cardiologist!!!

Sherri (Lansing, MI) on 21 Oct 2009 at 12:11 pm

Recertification should be done away with completely. I work in a specialty and the PANRE evaluates NOTHING of my knowledge or skill as a PA. It is ludicrous that I have to cram up on primary care every 6 years so that I won't lose my license to practice!!

Just Clarigying (Houston) on 21 Oct 2009 at 11:45 am

NP\'s have to receive specialty certification. They are divided up by Adult, Family, Women\'s Health, Psychiatric, Geriatric and Acute Care Nurse Practitioners. We also have Clinical Nurse Specialist. Moreover, we have established credentialing examinations either through the AANP or the AANC nursing board accepted examination entities. Nursing already realizes the importance of taking specialty examinations. If you want a broader specialty study for the exams

Dave Kotun (Kissimmee, Fl.) on 21 Oct 2009 at 9:38 am

According to original research by Hess and Subhiyah published in 2004 in "Perspective on Physician Assistant Education" Vol 15 # 1, stated in the abstract and was discussed in the text, "PAs across different major proactice-focus areas of medicine perform similarly on the recertification examinations, regradless of how long they have spent in their practice areas". Also if you scored higher on the PANCE, you will score higher on the PANRE. The argument on not doing well on a general test if you work in a specialty, according to this research, does not hold water.

Again, will specialty exams confer certification or competency. Until that question is answered, then the rest is moot.
DaveK

Nadine B on 21 Oct 2009 at 8:39 am

I believe one of the great advantages to being a Physician Assistant is that, once trained, one has the knowledge and skills to be flexible in any field of medicine, under the supervision of a physician. That flexibility allows one to shift between different fields of medicine. I can empathize with PAs who have worked in a specific field for 20 years and are frustrated with passing an exam that is hardly applicable to their specialty.

Still, in order to maintain knowledge, to be prepared to shift boxes, and uphold the concept and confidence of the role of a PA, I believe that we need the PANRE. However, I also believe that a specialty board could be a SUBSTITUTION for the recertification exam. I would still be afraid that this would lead to a slippery slope of requiring speciatly exams for a even a new graduate to work in any specialty field. It is this additional board that would start to limit the flexibility of the profession.

I do not agree in having a \\\\\\\"Primary/Family\\\\\\\" board certification. PAs are already trained with an emphasis in primary care, and the PANCE/PANRE is geared more toward this field than any other. A specialty board would be redundant, and again, lead to the slippery slope mentioned above.

Anonymous (kentucky) on 21 Oct 2009 at 8:03 am

I have been a PA for 30 years have a masters and worked in Family Practice, Orthopedics, Neurosurgery, ER, Peds, Psyc. "Boards" do not make or ensure good care. The current model ensures a basic level and is one of the basic requirements for a state license. I work in specialty now and have quite a bit of independence. Remember what a PA is, a physician extender not a substitute. If you want to run clinics and do specialty boards so you can be more independent you should go to medical school and do a residency. The current recert is not hard, I have done many times. If you cannot pass that you should not be a PA.

Jared on 21 Oct 2009 at 2:07 am

Try being a new graduate w/o experience trying to find a job. Specialty certs will just make it harder for new grads to get any experience what-so-ever. As it is now, at least some ortho, general surg, urology, or other group is willing to take a new grad and train, but after specialty certs come, and most hospitals will require a cert that can be obtained only after 3 yrs specialty experience and an exam, how is ANY new grad going to get a job? Let alone, there aren't high numbers of Primary care openings dispite the shortage of providers in the US.... so all new grad PA's will just be sitting waiting for PC job to open up and compete w/ all the other thousands of new grads in the same boat.. did NCCPA ever consider this dilema?

Is it time for a grass-roots campaign to get this point across? I graduated in May, passed my boards in July, and still don't have a job... what's wrong w/ this country in a so called "health care crisis" ? Employers don't want to hire new grads right now and they have that luxury in this down market.

Dennis Rivenburgh (Seminole Florida) on 20 Oct 2009 at 9:27 pm

Here Here!

We at PAOS do not feel that it is the time or the place. Lets move to a 10 year cycle and go from there.

Dennis

Benton Kinney PA-C (Redding, ca) on 20 Oct 2009 at 7:04 pm

I am hoping that the specialty credentials will change the way that insurance views PA's in psychiatry. I work in psychiatry and BLUE CROSS will not let me see psychiatric patients. They only recognize psychiatrist, psychologists, and psych certified nurse practitioners. Blue is the primary insurance for local, state, federal, and many private companies this severly impedes access to care, I can't help them without getting paid. The whole reason we can practice and continue to have a job is that insurances allow credentialing of midlevels. I would like to change the rules but its hard to push back when your the little guy.

Rob F. (Honolulu) on 15 Oct 2009 at 8:30 pm

I agree with Dave. Now is not the time for specialty certification. I have been able to 'lateral' from Cardiac, Thoracic, and Vascular Surgery; to General Surgery; to Weight Loss Medicine; to Family Practice and Urgent Care; and lately to Emergency Medicine. Specialty 'certification', ahem, would have been an obstacle. Not that it would have been impossible, simply more expensive and time consuming.I value many things about our profession, and flexibility ranks right up there below the privilege to help others in their time of need.

Anonymous (Queens NY) on 14 Oct 2009 at 3:41 pm

I am not sure if the public is aware of thefact that NPs are trained in different area.
Psych NP
Family NP
Adult NP
Pediatric NP and other areas
They are also certified in the area of their training.
When applying for certification they must apply only to the area of training. Therefore if an Np is Pediatric or Adult tract there certification can only be in that area.

W. Joyce (New Jersey) on 14 Oct 2009 at 8:22 am

I agree with Shane. The recertification process is a joke. It is a complete slap in the face.

I do not know one Doc or NP that is faced with potentially losing their career every six years if they don\'t pass a test!

The CME requirement cycle is all that is needed, as in the other professions.

We already worked hard and studied to graduate from PA School once. Why are we doing it again every six years?!

Once you graduate and pass your initial Boards; you should be a PA-C until you decide not to be! Ridiculous.

Ron (St Petersburg, Fl) on 13 Oct 2009 at 10:03 pm

Dave,
This is redundant with the thought of why we currently rotate through the core areas of medicine. With graduation of school currently, this should already allow our board to have been passed as Primary Care/Family Medicine. Once we relinquish this, we already will have given up our ability to be able to move from specialty to specialty, or from Primary Care to a specialty and back, or have a dual role. I currently work in a specialty, and feel that since I have been able to pass the recertification without difficulty while working in a specialty, I have already maintained my Board in Primary Care!!

Shane Broussard (Lafayette, LA) on 13 Oct 2009 at 8:48 pm

I believe that the recertification of PAs is a waste of time and should be eliminated completely. No other profession that i am aware of has to do this and for some of the reasons you mentioned in your article should be eliminated.

Dennis Rivenburgh (Seminole Florida) on 13 Oct 2009 at 12:18 pm

Thank you! The Board of Directors of Physician Assistants in Orthopaedic Surgery, Inc have voted to be excluded in the initial round and future if we have anything to do with it. There are some members that feel if this was in place of the PANRE, it would be good but I do not forsee this happening.

Thanks again.

Dennis Rivenbugh, MS, ATC, PA-C
President, PAOS, Inc.

Craig Brown (New Jersey) on 13 Oct 2009 at 9:32 am

I totally agree with Mr. Mittman comment. We as PA's need to be able to be flexible it's our only life line. The health care is definitely a mess right now and we have to be careful what we agree to sign up for. I do believe that the specialty boards will hold us to a higher standard. I am sure we will be required to know and pass the same type of boards that the MD's are required to pass. Let take our time and really think about this.

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