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Let's Stand Up Before It's Too Late
by David Mittman, PA - September 18, 2009   Bookmark and Share

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There is a disconnect that hurts NPs and PAs when it comes to healthcare reform and our future in it. The premise believed by many who determine healthcare needs and staffing is that there is "doctor work" and then there is the work that the "other professionals" do. Many administrators, health planners, politicians and insurance company decision makers still believe that no other professions really do what physicians do. In some cases, it's true. Not too many NPs and PAs are the primary surgeon in an open heart case, nor are we inserting many new hips. But in most cases, it's not true at all. There really is no longer "doctor only" work. The perception especially hurts in primary care, where good experienced PAs and NPs have spent years proving they can provide most, if not all of the general medical services any community would need.

In this regard, our professional names also add to the confusion because to the uninformed, "assistants" and nurses" are not expected to practice at the level that a physician practices at. We are just not expected to do the same things. There also is a pretty good disinformation campaign directed at PAs and NPs from some parts of organized medicine who regularly appear on the news and usually say that "NP and PAs are OK but they don't have the training to know when something is strep throat or meningitis or possibly can't tell the difference between a simple rash and skin cancer". "Wait a second" says the public and some of those decision makers, this makes all the sense in the world. If they could tell the difference, they would be physicians, wouldn't they? Little do they know.

Pushing healthcare reform out of the picture for a moment or two, the other important issue facing us is that there are not enough people around delivering primary care. Even with over one hundred thousand of us practicing primary care for years (along with MDs and DOs), our country is not close to being able to provide the primary care services our country needs. Now here's where the disconnect comes in. If physicians are the ONLY people expected to provide these "doctor services" and there are not enough of them to do it, there is only one way to solve the problem; let's go get some more doctors.

There are two ways to get more physicians, and either one would not be the best thing for our country. One would be to build more medical schools and double the size of enrollment in all of them. This sounds good to the uninformed but would still not guarantee that a higher percentage would practice in primary care. So we would train more high priced specialists.The other (and the one which organized medicine has a bit more control over) is to reach out to 10 selected countries and bring in 100,000 of their physicians to provide only primary care. We could give them 10 year visas and maybe even tell the public we are "upgrading" their training. They would enter ONLY primary care residencies and maybe be given a provisional license where they would need loose collaboration or supervision. They easily could begin treating people within a few years. This "foreign trained" physician option is being suggested by some physician groups much more frequently of late. We know they won't suggest training more PAs and NPs that's for sure!. The unfortunate problem is this would be a horrible decision for many reasons, as we have NPs and PAs who clearly have demonstrated they are ready to take this on, and please let's not forget the ethics involved in taking 100,000 physicians away from countries that need their physicians even more than we do. That being said we have taken in physicians from around the world many times before to cover up our healthcare manpower mistakes.

So where do we go from here and how do we STAND UP before it's too late?

That's coming soon.

Dave

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P (OK) on 30 Sep 2009 at 12:08 pm

I agree something needs to be done concerning healthcare reform and MD dealings with NP/PA. We are the key. I have had to deal with jelousy, racism, set-up and sabotage from MDs. I am glad to see i am not alone with my struggles. I have no answer currently, and I wonder how NPs becoming DNP is really going to change how we practice and what doors will it open or close?

sheikh (Tx) on 29 Sep 2009 at 5:22 pm

Well said, why can't we be given an opportunity to take the USMLE, and practice as MD, once we either get though residency, or be exampted from it, if we have practiced for say 5 yrs or work for a certain number of yrs undersupervision and thengo solo as md's.

gm (ny) on 25 Sep 2009 at 2:21 pm

Would love to see PAs paid on par with NPs in NY.

Dana (MN ) on 25 Sep 2009 at 12:32 pm

Hey,
Can't we just all get along? When I'm supportive of docs and respectful and request help or information or resources these docs help me. They also trust me to know my limits and are apt to let me see theirs...even ask me questions and expect honest answers.

More of us mid-levels seem to delight in expanding any perceived inadequacy in MDs. Our lack of understanding the big picture makes us look like brats. A couple females are especially delighting in their 'victim' status, and expand their bad experience with someone so the whole place knows how badly they've been treated--and of course stay away from their barbed tongue and 'me-ism'. We are all "there for" clients--patients. We can all help. We are not all alike even if we have the same alphabets after our names. We have deficiencies and expertise and a heart to help others--even at the end of a long, long day.

I find that the worst people to ask for help is another mid-level and as an NP I find PAs more friendly than NPs and helpful and better at technical stuff like stitching and casting and prescribing--but not always! PAs have their preferences too. Part of professionalism is teaching each other, and reaching out to each other with understanding and encouragement. Anyone can get better, all of us need to review and REFER.

I guess we are thinking we should EACH know everything, and if we SHOULD NOT ask for help from one of us who has had experience in an area I need MORE experience in. Even if I don't want to learn more about something and am just asking for a one time FYI and input...either way I'm looked at with disdain--like I'm Bart Simpson's sibling or something.

I love what I do, and I think we should be complimenting one another on our caring and our difficult schedules and on what we see someone do well--that is EMPOWERING. One system takes all 'mistakes' and writes newsletters about how not to get in that situation...THEY DO NOT THROW health care WORKERS, 'humans' ALL, under the bus.

Please just try to get along, lend a hand, and lead the way to better relationships--that earns us all trust and could result in respect going around--all around. Work could be much "funner"!
I teach elem kids, a lot. I'm amazed we are like them, too often, after all these years of education we just can't get along???

therese sullivan (chicago) on 21 Sep 2009 at 7:28 pm

What about an option for NP's and PA's to have access to an accelerated program toward MD, or allow us to sit for board exams?

tade (pa) on 21 Sep 2009 at 5:07 pm

great analysis.
how about the jelousy part we face every day for owning good sounded knowledge better than our higher ups and not living in as a stressfull life of malpractice litigation as they do.
great read

J (WA) on 21 Sep 2009 at 4:04 pm

I must agree. I have been a practicing NP for a number of years and feel I am capable of providing excellent service but it is becoming increasingly difficult. I have also collided with the MDs that believe the Mid-levels (NP/PAs are out to take their patients away from them, thus impacting there financial state. I unfortunately have no answers. J

bertJ (Los Angeles) on 21 Sep 2009 at 12:12 pm

I could not agree with you more. As I a PA, I would like to see more political activism to help promote the proficiency of our profession and demonstrate to policy makers that PAs and NPs are more than capable of handling the challenge at hand.

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