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Lessons from a Psychiatrist Who Might Want To Make You Angry
by David Mittman, PA - May 3, 2010   Bookmark and Share

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Lessons from a Psychiatrist Who Might Want To Make You Angry

There is a very important blog from Dr. Ablow, a psychiatrist who blogs for Fox News. He wrote it about NPs but I think he also would say the same about PAs. I ask you to read it now. If you care about your profession it will make you angry. I think most of us will have a visceral reaction to it, which I think is what Dr. Ablow wanted. If he really believes his rhetoric, then he becomes to me a very scary person.

Take a moment out to read it here: http://clinician1.com/posts/article/fox_news_blog_noted_physician_says_nurses_masquerade_as_doctors/

I would like to let you know why I find his thinking more than just rhetoric but foolish at best and dangerous at worst. As a psychiatrist, he should be trained at realizing that calling people names is not something that fosters agreement and moves everyone forward. Or maybe he really wants to move things backwards, which, again, is not what someone who is a psychiatrist should want to do. It seems to me he was just speaking his mind and acting like someone who is threatened and not using his training in this case. At least I hope so. I think we can learn much from his blog and also try to learn some answers that make sense to his arguments.

Lesson one is to not look at what we do through the eyes of a physician. Dr. Ablow, in what seems to be an attempt to put down nursing and NPs says, “How come no one is flying into an American city today to see a famous nurse, while people arrive from countries around the world to visit with noted American physicians?”

My answer to this would be two fold. Most importantly, most of us practice primary care. That means we do things done by other clinicians all over the world. We are not that unique, we are simply good caring clinicians. We take care of fever, coughs, acne, corneal abrasions, we suture simple cuts, we do pelvics and prostate exams. That is what primary care is about and no one should ever travel across the world to get good primary care. We, by our nature, love this work and we are what America needs. Secondly, no one travels around the world to just see a physician. They travel to see a team of professionals who include the “big name doctor” and then the PAs and NPs, RNs, LPNs and pharmacists, technicians and PhDs that also make up the team. Try to do open heart surgery alone. Can’t be done. You are worthless without the team so get off your pedestal and realize it is not you that is holding it up.

Dr. Ablow goes onto say, "Doctors go to medical school, which is much more rigorous academically and intellectually than nursing school. They also were admitted to medical school, which is a much more competitive process than being admitted to nursing school. The average doctor has more training, relevant experience and raw intellect than the average nurse–period.” So how should we answer that? I fear this is the thinking of many physicians and I fear they think the same about PAs. Why not? After all, are we not just a group of doctor wanna-bes trying our best to take over medicine without going to medical school? Again, let’s stop reacting and look at the most logical answer which is sorry to disappoint but we are not doctor wanna-bes. We never wanted to become physicians or most of us would be. We have real professions with real standards of care. We have laws which allow us to practice and studies show we are excellent at what we do. We do what we are trained to do and do it excellently, and it’s time to get used to it. We work side by side with physicians and other professionals and are their colleagues. We do not need to apologize for practicing medical or healthcare at a very high level.

Lastly, although Dr. Ablow says much to quibble with, I’d like to quote this passage: "If nurses stop impersonating doctors, I’ll stop writing about them impersonating doctors. Until then, just follow the money; people with enough of it will hire physicians, every single time, when they have real health concerns. The vast majority of Americans, on the other hand, whose health insurance is rapidly costing more and buying them less, will see health care workers who chose not to go to medical school and probably would have been turned down, anyhow.”

What distorted nonsense. Dr. Ablow has a real problem with NPs and PAs doing what only physicians could only do fifty years ago. Except that was 1960. He does not realize that the best medical centers in the USA, those that could afford it, choose to place the lives of their patients in the hands of NPs and PAs every day. The best universities and medical schools choose to train us. We are officers in all of the uniformed services and through many years of medical service, have shown we can provide excellent care, even with bullets flying over our heads. Dr. Ablow seems to not realize that NPs and PAs are not a new phenomena, not an invention of Obamacare, and both our professions were developed before he went to medical school.

Our mantra to these physicians must be, “We are excellent clinicians who prove millions of times a day that we can provide high quality care to the citizens of America. We are ready to do whatever we can to help provide this care in the future and ask physicians who care more about their patients than their ego or their incomes, to join us in doing so”.

Dr. Ablow seems to lack the insight needed to analyze medical care delivery. He seems to enjoy putting people down and labeling it as “the truth” which some people in psychiatry might see as some sort of personality disorder. I doubt people fly in to see him from around the world, but oh yes, I forget, he is a physician and obviously a very, very, very special person. Is inflated ego a DSM diagnosis?

Dave

 

David Mittman, PA

 

Dave has been a PA, and later NP, leader for thirty years. He strongly believes that NPs and PAs must work together to insure a better future for both professions. Most recently Dave has been busy launching another dream; Clinician 1, the first internet community for PAs and NPs. In October 2008, Dave was honored by the New Jersey State society of PAs with its “Lifetime Achievement Award”.

 

 

The viewpoint expressed in this article is the opinion of the author and is not necessarily the viewpoint of the owners or employees at Healthcare Staffing Innovations, LLC.

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Roger N. PA-C (Burlington, Iowa) on 12 May 2010 at 5:40 pm

This little man is very interesting. I try to listen to and read these things as If I were listening to a pt. and putting a history together for a dx. I try not to take it personal, although in this case it is definitely hard. I think we must remember that there are shallow people in every field of endeavor and this man certainly fits the bill. My wife, who from early childhood wanted to be a Dr., and who was quite capable, unfortunately got pregnant at an early age and as a single mom slowly began her career into nursing. She now has her masters and is working on her PhD and is constantly earning honors. We all know that many of us could have been very good Drs. but situations have not always allowed that to happen. Dr. Ablow is extremely confused about those who "couldn't make it through the doors of medical school" and I feel sorry for him. I myself will just continue to practice good medicine and fight for our name change to Associate. I pity this mans patients. Roger N. PA-C

Concern NP (doctorate) (Queens NY) on 11 May 2010 at 4:08 pm

He actually has the right name for his personalityA......Blow
Perfect he was destined to be locked into that mind set from birth possibly. I actually feel sorry for the guy. He should refer himself to a psych NP for counselling and see what a difference a NP care would be in helping him to become a better clinician and a better person overall. Thanks for taking the time Dave to point out A....Blow like these, there are many more like him but there are so much more of us who are more concern with the delivery of quality health care that we offer than worrying about non-threatening clinician like himself who have to put up with us because we are here to stay for over 40 years and we are definately not going anywhere.

Maine NP (Maine) on 11 May 2010 at 2:25 pm

Thank you Dave. For over 40 years as a nurse, with more that 20 of that as an NP, I always thought that we are "in this together" as a team to provide our patients with the best possible care, no matter who they are and whether they have insurance or not. Every member of the team has his or her own skills and strenths to add to the care. That's why I work in such a great team. Poor Dr. Ablow. He will never know the joy of teamwork.

Dave Mittman, PA (Livingston, NJ) on 11 May 2010 at 1:32 pm

Hey tk:

I do not believe but I know that physicians who write such stuff are not just writing about NPs but also generally against PAs. This particular gentleman (;=)) went for the thing that got him the angriest, the part about having to call a nurse "doctor" when they get a doctorate. This seems to make physicians crazy. If you think he dislikes NPs, what do you think he feels about "ASSISTANTS" doing physician level chores.
If you think these guys are our friends, Bless you.
Dave

tk ( PA,Ohio) (OH) on 08 May 2010 at 3:33 pm

First of all, did anyone bother to ask Dr. Ablow IF he lumps PA's and NP's into same misguided, deceptive "category" called "midlevel practitioner". Perhaps he has astutely observed that all " midlevels" are not created equal. Perhaps he realizes that NP's are NOT trained in the medical model but rather a nursing model and subsequently not "physician extenders" . Perhaps he realizes that, by admission of many nurses become PA's, NP training and recertification are not as rigorous as that of physicians and PA's. Perhaps he understands that the nursing lobby has had an adversarial relationship with physicians (and later,PA's) for a century and, rather than recognize the more comprehensive training of the physician, as does the PA, the NP presses on for autonomy and the title "Doctor" ( read "Doctor of Nursing"- unless a nurse chooses an academic career path, of what possible use is a doctorate in nursing. Let's call it what it is- a thinly veiled political move to out maneuver PA' s in the job market). Perhaps Dr. Ablow is aware that the nursing lobby has no interest in educating the public about the limitations of NP's but are quite content to ride the coattails of the more rigorously trained and scrutinized Physician Assistants. Perhaps this is why PA's aren't mentioned in his blog, Dave.

Helene A.DiSantos,MS, ARNP (Ormond Beach,FL) on 08 May 2010 at 2:28 pm

Anger and jealousy may be the motivating forces behind Dr.Ablow's remarks. Perhaps he has had patients tell him their preferred provider is the psych.ARNP or the clinical specialist who actually spends quality time with them instead of just handing out another prescription . I am not sure we can educate Dr.Ablow in a constructive manner . His personal experiences with our professions has shaped his negative views. Hopefully, he remains in the minority of non-supportive physicians.

Janet CnS MH (Indiana) on 05 May 2010 at 5:27 pm

Thank you for responding to this obviously ledgend in his own mind. I'm a CnS in mental health and obviously he would consider me worthless to. I'bve spent most of my nursing life dealing with patients who have mental health issues who couldn't afford his rates. when is the last time hhe offered to treat a homeless man suffering from alcoholism who hadn't the opportunity to bathe inweeks or months. Are they not deserving of care? Or only NP's and PA's and CNS'S suppose to take care of these unfortunate citizens without means or insurance. Thank you for speaking for all of us who have studied very hard to do what we do and continue to study to become the best we can be, Janet

Brian (Ohio) on 05 May 2010 at 11:12 am

Well written, thank you for taking the time to write what most caring, educated, and professional health care providers would say about his senseless diatribe. I have found that this level of narrow mindedness is difficult to change and that the large majority of doctors appreciate what we do for them and our patients.

Anonymous (Palm Harbor FL) on 05 May 2010 at 10:46 am

This guy is a narcissistic arrogant ass who is reckless and clueless.

Donna (Kentucky) on 04 May 2010 at 8:14 pm

I appreciate the time you spent to turn a horrible negative into a positive. NP's/PA's have filled a huge gap in healthcare that physcians have created on their own.

Let them stay up on their pedestals. We chose our careers to be close to our clients not hover above them.

Hannah (Loma Linda) on 04 May 2010 at 6:31 pm

I feel sorry for Physicians like Ablow. I am comforted in the knowlege that I have only come accross a handful like him. I have been privileged to work and interact with physicians that think very highly of NPs and PAs and provide support and mentorship to such because they care about the health of Americans and value the fact that the more competent hands there are to do the job, the better the job gets done. I pray that some day, Dr. Ablow will wake up and realize this is not about him or his title, but about real people in need of real care that get it because there are NPs and PAs to man the work force with physicians.

Stef (Massachusetts) on 04 May 2010 at 6:12 pm

Great reasoning, Dave. Keith Ablow is real alright. He's a psychiatrist here in Massachusetts although he hasn't worked as such for quite a while if I remember correctly. Now he's writing psychological thrillers. Which reminds me not to buy his books in the future... That he's blogging on Fox with opinions like that doesn't surprise me one bit though...:-(

Mike (NC) on 04 May 2010 at 4:41 pm

Have you sent this to FOX News?

Phyllis Peterson (TTUHSC, Lubbock, TX) on 04 May 2010 at 4:26 pm

Hey, it's Fox, and it's it is the same old story people write dumb stull. As a PA for nearly thirty years, I have seen that until people experience a positive interaction with PA's, NP they don't know what to think. Dave's comments are well thought out, fair and consistent with the existing system. Why doesn't he write for fox?

Dave Mittman, PA (Livingston, NJ) on 04 May 2010 at 1:41 pm

Dana: He is not fictitious. He IS a real life Fox News Blogger.
Check out the comments on his blog. There are hundreds and they are scary.
In any case, we have to learn how to educate physicians better on what NPs and PAs can do. It has to start at the medical school level.
Dave

Jane (North Carolina) on 04 May 2010 at 9:40 am

Excellent response!! I wonder if Ablow is a fictitious name used to cover for several threatened physicians. Territory battles have always been around and will continue. I am just glad that the majority of physicians I know and work with are enlightened to my qualifications and ability to manage patients. Not to mention the unique contribution I give to patient management and health care.

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